Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer

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John Edwards said Tuesday that if he were asked to accept the vice presidential slot or a cabinet position in a potential Barack Obama administration, he would "seriously consider" whatever the Illinois senator asked him to do.

It has been widely reported that the former North Carolina senator is on Obama's vice presidential shortlist. On Tuesday, NPR interviewer Guy Raz called the former Democratic presidential candidate's presence on the list an "open secret," and asked Edwards whether he'd weigh accepting a vice presidential offer, or might take himself out of consideration as Virginia Senator Jim Webb had done Monday.

"I'm glad to hear that's an open secret because I didn't know it," joked Edwards of his rumored consideration as Obama's running mate.

"My answer to that is, I've run for vice president, I've run for president twice. I would do anything that I felt I could do to serve this country but I think it's a huge presumption for me or anybody else to suggest what Senator Obama may decide," he said.



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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

For what it's worth, OpenLeft has rather startling (blowout-level) electoral predictions with Edwards on the ticket.  If those numbers were real (obviously impossible for a non-pollster such as myself to say), the interests of the party would almost compel that he be placed on the ticket.


by rfahey22 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:08:03 AM EST

Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (2.00 / 1)

How do other VP candidates do in that poll?


He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time."
by roxfoxy on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:13:29 AM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

You should go there and find out. :)

Their analysis only reflects data from public polling, and they don't have any data on Clinton.  Also, it's clear that many of them are extremely high on Edwards, so all of it has to be taken with some salt.  But, according to their analysis, Edwards outperforms Webb, Biden, Sebelius, Rendell, and McCaskill, as well as unrealistic choices such as Bloomberg and Hagel.


by rfahey22 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:26:24 AM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (2.00 / 1)

Oh my god - I just looked at it.

It's not so much that the states change, it's that the margins become blowouts.  Obama easily passes the 270 mark among his "base" states, and the election is fought over how big of an embarassment it's going to be.


by MeganLocke on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:39:55 AM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

The damage done to the party isn't worth it.

If its not Hillary you lose integer PERCENTs of your total support going forward.

The party can't lose 1% of their support for an election.

Love Edwards all you want but there is a solid portion of Hillary supporters who won't ever vote Democratic again if you screw us on this.


by dtaylor2 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 12:22:36 PM EST
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hillary won't be VP (none / 0)

that's why she's negotiating when she speaks at the convention..


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 12:42:22 PM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

Open Left's poll analysis finds Edwards to be the most compelling VP choice?  That's about as surprising as NoQuarter's analysis that Obama is unelectable, the Open Left crowd have been in the tank for Edwards since before the diaspora.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:38:30 AM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

True, which is why I added in that "if the numbers were true" line.  I don't think that he can do any wrong in their eyes.


by rfahey22 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:58:46 AM EST
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Hey, if those numbers are real I would be the first person to be eternally grateful for the opportunity of having Edwards as the VP.  And more power to us all.  I have nothing against Edwards, to be sure, and even contributed to his campaign a coupla' times as we did back then every time a troll said something questionable about Elizabeth.  It was an Obama/Edwards solidarity thing...


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 03:26:02 AM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

It's all based upon SurveyUSA's extensive polling of various VP candidates in a buncha different states, I'm sure. Which did show those margins, much to the amazement of everyone, including me. Those polls revealed interesting stuff, but most notably that Edwards helped the ticket in EVERY SINGLE STATE. For a couple of matchups, he beat Sebelius in Kansas, for Christ's sake.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:55:53 AM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

Yeah, I read one of Chris' diaries on this a week or so ago, from memory.  Food for thought there.  But SurveyUSA?


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:41:33 AM EST
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what other polls are out there? (none / 0)

the polls are striking and I haven't seen any others.

the pundits on TV would have a fit if it were Edwards.

with the IRaq war fading and the economy becoming front and center Edwards makes more sense.

but the pundits are trying to stick obama with someone ancient and/or boring like Nunn or Bayh..

(please no)


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:48:49 AM EST
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Re: what other polls are out there? (none / 0)

I have absolutely no problem with Edwards as VP, I must say.  It's a pretty exciting development, really.  And Open Left didn't do the polls, did they?


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:53:06 AM EST
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I don't know who pays (none / 0)

survey usa, I can't imagine open left can afford them...

but outside of hillary, I wouldn't be surprised if future polls don't include very many VP options.

the DC beltway folks would have an implosion if edwards were VP which is why I don't expect Obama to pick him....

but Edwards and Obama had very very similar messages...


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 09:11:00 AM EST
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Re: I don't know who pays (none / 0)

I was kidding with the Open Left comment.  You know, there is a pretty conventional argument in favour of Edwards, and the polls seem quite exceptionally positive.  I can remember them both working pretty effectively together during the campaign, as well.  Stranger things have happened.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:13:12 AM EST
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Re: I don't know who pays (none / 0)

Why do you reckon the Beltway would implode over an Edwards pick?  Because he's no longer a Senator?  Too populist?  Or just on general principles?


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:16:07 AM EST
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the beltway keeps pushing (none / 0)

obama to take a military person (not Clark, not Webb but NUNN) the other cackling pundits push a hillary person i.e. Bayh who makes Vilsack look animated.

I'm hoping whoever Obama picks is not a beltway favorite...

the pundits never really liked Edwards, and they completely ignore these polls showing him doing well on a ticket.

I think Change and anti-DC  is the way to go and Edwards makes sense that way.

Now that the Iraqis have told us to leave I think shifting to domestic territory is the way to go.


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:19:20 AM EST
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Re: the beltway keeps pushing (none / 0)

Well, I still think our challenge is to fight the national security battle in the electorate, but that's just me.  I agree about Nunn, and never really thought the Hillary ticket would fly, frankly.  This VP choice is a major call for Obama and of course he is under a lot of pressure but I am confident he will make it by his own lights.  I agree that a candidate with strong national security credentials would be a plus, but it is not essential, and the Edwards option seems plausible, polling notwithstanding, on a lot of points.  One can imagine him as a capable and energetic President of the Senate as well.

Whatever the outcome, however, I am betting that Obama's choice will be a bit of a surprise for all concerned.  I see little chance that it will be a cave to Beltway preferences, given the way he has convincingly taken hold of the party infrastructure since his presumed nomination.

I have my reservations about Edwards, to be sure, and was never as infatuated with him as the progressive netroots were, as a champion, but I can see where he would fit reasonably well, both electorally and in government, with Obama's campaign and administration.  There are definitely synergies.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:38:36 AM EST
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Re: the beltway keeps pushing (none / 0)

I think in an odd way, adding Edwards as his chosen VP would make Obama seem stronger on national security. I'm not sure why, it's just a general impression that I get. I might be too partial to trust my own judgment, though.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:59:03 AM EST
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Re: the beltway keeps pushing (none / 0)

Hard to say how, other than being an affable Southern white guy.  His AUMF vote, and sponsorship, perhaps a bit of a clash with Obama's chosen platform, but otherwise seems a wash to me.  As an economic populist, however, I can see where his polling would be strong.


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 11:25:09 AM EST
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Re: what other polls are out there? (none / 0)

I think they were sponsored by various local news agencies. I don't think they were COMMISSIONED by them, but typically, it says they sponsored them.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 09:19:08 AM EST
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Re: what other polls are out there? (none / 0)

As you mentioned the polling is pretty impressive.  Hmmm...


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:14:47 AM EST
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I agree with Edwards (none / 0)

"I think it's a huge presumption for me or anybody else to suggest what Senator Obama may decide."

Not that it'll stop anyone.


"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008
by BobzCat on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:26:10 AM EST

I cannot stand (none / 0)

Edwards at all, which makes me a minority in the 'roots community.  I think all of the potential veep candidates should be put through a tryout on one of the Sunday shows where they are pared against the respective McCain surrogate.  As far as I know, Sebelius has not been put in this position and I would be interested to to see how she performs since I'm getting this terrible feeling that she could be near the top of Obama's list.  I guess Edwards and Hillary would be exempted from the Sunday "tryouts."


by Blazers Edge on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 03:04:04 AM EST

Re: I cannot stand (none / 0)

I really, really like Sebelius a lot, but I agree with your "put them in the limelight" test.  The one time I saw Kathleen Sebelius out on the teevee opposite someone, it was her and Ed Rendell sometime just before Ohio.  It was frustrating to watch (as an Obama supporter) because it around the time that Rendell had made his "some voters won't vote for the black guy" comments, and the interviewer asked him about that at the beginning putting him on the defensive pretty much out the gate.  Sebelius didn't dump on Rendell excessively which I commend her for, but she seeked to spend most of the interview almost debating herself in an odd way that made me wonder if she'd be an effective surrogate under under less favorable conditions.  I haven't seen her much since then except for a couple times on C-SPAN, so hopefully, they're working on that if she's at the top of the list.


by hello world on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:51:59 AM EST
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Re: I cannot stand (none / 0)

seeked = seemed


by hello world on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:53:27 AM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

Why don't you like Edwards?


by Politicalslave on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 04:29:06 AM EST

Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

Not sure about Edwards, based on his political history.  


by mjc888 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:03:23 AM EST

Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

This becomes more feasible if Iraq continues to insist upon a timeline, at which point Obama's credibility in foreign policy gets a huge boost.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:52:53 AM EST

Domestic Economy (none / 0)

if Iraq becomes less of an issue I'd love to see an Obama/Edwards put America first message.

no one has ever explained to me how Edwards polls better than rendell in PA or better than webb/kaine in VA when polled as VP against McCain and his VPs.

name rec. alone can't explain Edwards bringing more to the ticket than governors in their own states


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:29:17 AM EST

The rules apply to rookies too (none / 0)

I know you claim to have only been here a week but you should peruse the guidelines before you write so many diaries.

Post only 1-2 diaries per day. No single or two-line diaries--if it's a comment, put it in a comment thread. Don't clutter the diaries with foolish commentary on MyDD itself. Do not create a diary that attacks another user.


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by Blue Neponset on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:58:26 AM EST

That's good, but should we reward his (none / 0)

weak performance in 2004 with another shot?


by activatedbybush on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 09:23:20 AM EST

Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

Edwards has national stature (both from his run with Kerry and bid this time).  What polls seem to show is that there is a small group (3-5%) of bona fide swing voters who like Edwards (who are generally white and describe themselves as moderates or conservatives--some match-ups, but not all, also suggest that they're male).

This vote seems to have shown up during the primaries, btw.  Eg., in Oklahoma Edwards got around 10%, and this was disproportionately made up of white high school grads between 40-49 who described themselves as conservative indies, didn't like Obama, Hillary, or Bill Clinton, and lived in rural areas.

On a typical poll like this, naming any VP tends to push a candidate's numbers down a bit (some fraction switch to undecided, which makes sense to me, "Let me hear what the person is going to say and then I'll decide".  

These polls for Edwards, btw, were taken in May, so who knows if the numbers are still good.  Wouldn't surprise me if they are, though.  These are probably Dems who would vote for McCain in the general unless they had a good reason not to (and Edwards seems to connect with them).

 


by IncognitoErgoSum on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 09:39:09 AM EST

Edwards got 7% in West Virginia (none / 0)

after dropping out two months earlier


McCain - a serial Opportunist, from marriage to policy positions
by TarHeel on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 09:45:13 AM EST
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Now that Wesley Clark made "unartful" comments, according to Obama, Edwards is now my top choice for VP.  Beleive it or not, JRE was not before.


Take out the trash. Down with Saxby Chambliss!
by CLLGADEM on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:03:54 AM EST

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I actually prefer Wes for VP right now, he kicked ass and showed the pundits what chowderheads they are?

Besides, I think you waste Edwards talents by NOT putting him in charge of Justice as AG?

Talk about a broken agency?  He would need to flush all the aparachiks that Rove installed in turning Justice into an arm of the Repubic idealogy.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 11:01:49 AM EST
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I won't shed any tears if Edwards is tapped for AG, not by any stretch.  I just wonder how Obama CAN pick Clark at this point.  The presumptive nominee chose to parrot the right-wing smear/spin of the general's comments, rather that fight it.


Take out the trash. Down with Saxby Chambliss!
by CLLGADEM on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 05:09:16 PM EST
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Man that Edwards is election magic.

Pity Kerry couldn't have had him run as his VP then we would have been able to beat that unpopular Bush guy...


by dtaylor2 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 12:24:40 PM EST

Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

BTW I like Edwards don't get me wrong.

But I won't be voting for a Obama/Edwards ticket and I would vote for a Obama/Hillary ticket.


by dtaylor2 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 12:26:43 PM EST
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Kerry was extremely unpopular just about everywhere outside the beltway. How he actually won the nomination is beyond me, but I had a whole lot of trouble summoning up the strength to defend him. Edwards had nothing to do with it.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 12:36:36 PM EST
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Agreed but he wasn't election magic either.


by dtaylor2 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:21:37 PM EST
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Re: Edwards would 'seriously consider' VP offer (none / 0)

Kerry didn't need magic - he needed a miracle!  What exactly did you expect of John Edwards?


Take out the trash. Down with Saxby Chambliss!
by CLLGADEM on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 05:15:04 PM EST
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